Our newest advertiser: Ditleff Point

31 Responses to “Our newest advertiser: Ditleff Point”

1. Marcia
   February 21st, 2010 02:52
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2. Pete (Mr. Marcia)
   February 21st, 2010 02:55
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   Dislike

3. Mamey
   February 21st, 2010 08:49
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   “just a handful of parcels?” i counted 35

4. Marcia
   February 21st, 2010 13:27
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   Where all the comments be at?

5. Chuck
   February 21st, 2010 13:28
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   “Blessed by south shore trade winds….”

   Does that mean it’s windy?

6. Chicago Steve
   February 21st, 2010 13:49
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   Nice… but does it have a gate?

7. John
   February 21st, 2010 13:58
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   Beautiful video! I would love to live on Ditleff Point.

8. spinny
   February 21st, 2010 15:40
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   gates. not cool. same thing about peter bay. dayum.

9. Lorena
   February 21st, 2010 15:49
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   A GATE!!??!!! Does that mean I cannot hike down to my favorite little beach???? That’s about the saddest thing I’ve heard all year

10. Don
    February 21st, 2010 15:56
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    How sad. What a beautiful peace of land to be “carved” up into 35 parcels! My wife and I have been to this beach several times, that was once open to the public. How lucky we were to enjoy it. Does anyone know if the beach will be open to the public, or for only those staying in the “private” gated community?

11. Linda
    February 21st, 2010 17:39
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    … a beautifully produced video of a beautiful peninsula reflecting some of the best beauty of St John.

12. david nc
    February 21st, 2010 18:45
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    “….. most likely last luxury waterfront development” If only that were true. It was posted on another board that people were turned away, by a security guard. You have to be with a real estate agent. I still have memories of Ditleff Point and Peter Bay.

    Great video though. Brings back good memories. Thanks

13. RM
    February 21st, 2010 20:10
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    My first visit to the island was in 1977,every trip a little more of the island is changed to something like this.

    35 people will now get to enjoy something that for years all could.

    Can you imagine if the park was not there?

14. Jen
    February 22nd, 2010 11:41
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    Wow. This makes me feel sick to my stomach.

15. Jeff
    February 22nd, 2010 12:41
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    How disgusting. My wife and I had the pleasure of hiking out Ditleff Point many years ago. It was filled with all kinds of animals and plant life. Now, of course, all they could find to show in this video was a single bird and one lonely hermit crab. When we visited, there were thousands of hermit crabs. It was one of the most fantastic sights I have ever seen. We also spotted some incredible spiders and their webs. I’m sure they are all gone. I see the video has no mention of the destruction of the coral, and subsequently the fish, due to all the runoff from construction of the roads, walls, and new villas.
    The last time I was in St John was 2005. It was a beautiful place. However, we decided it would be our last trip there, because each year you could see the rapid decline of what made this island so special. We didn’t want to further spoil our memories of how this island once was.

16. Suds
    February 22nd, 2010 12:57
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    The beach isn’t that great. Lotta rocks. How much 5-6 million?

17. Dina
    February 22nd, 2010 13:13
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    This is truly sad. Gates? I am so grateful for the national park.

18. Parker
    February 22nd, 2010 17:06
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    I really find it offensive that so many people are offended by someone’s desire to protect their private property. Trespass is a crime, no matter how scenic the hike.

    To all you entitled trespass enthusiasts – be grateful for the 60%+ of the island Mr R. gave us to hike freely….and legally. It’s much prettier anyway.

19. Jack
    February 22nd, 2010 18:42
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    We can thank Mr. Rockefeller for putting development requirements in place on Ditleff Point when he sold this small piece of St. John to friends 50 years ago and thank him also for giving several thousand acres to the public. These architectural guidelines and development standards are thankfully being strictly enforced by the developers of Ditleff Point to maintain an attractive and environmentally sound development. Unfortunately, it just doesn’t work for all of St. John or the Virgin Islands to be “public” land, although there are those who feel they are entitled to have free access to anything anywhere.

20. Katherine
    February 22nd, 2010 21:45
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    I was on Ditleff during my last visit to the island, and loved the beautiful beaches and quiet atmosphere. I think its a great spot of island that will go to some wonderful houses (under strict regulations, of course!). Can’t wait to see what’s to come for ditleff!

21. Greg and Dale
    February 22nd, 2010 21:59
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    On our first trip to St. John in 2000, I admit that we did CASUALLY look at real estate in a dreamy kind of way. At the time, we couldn’t afford $25k for a 1/4 acre anyway. Over the years, we’ve realized how happy we are that we couldn’t afford it. If you love something, it doesn’t mean that you have to own a piece of it. We’ve found that in fact, the opposite can be true. In a hundred years, what might have once been somebody’s dream villa on an architect’s drawing, will just be an obstacle to what St. John has meant to so many – natural beauty. There are still (miraculously) beautiful beaches and trails that anyone and everyone can still enjoy – even considering most recent exception of Ditleff Point. I just hope my grandchildren will be able to say the same.

22. Capt Doug
    February 24th, 2010 01:25
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    You can always go to their website http://www.ditleffpoint.com and read the ad – it says ” St John for the Select Few” – yet people will rent these unsustainable villas – no one will live in one – and the whole project is unnecessary and a testament to the greed of a few.

23. Danny
    February 24th, 2010 17:20
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    Actually it doesn’t say that. At least, I didn’t see it.
    How are these future villas “unsustainable”, exactly?

24. Jim
    February 24th, 2010 19:16
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    Capt. Doug, ExitZero, Local Sailor, Doug White, or whatever screen name you choose to use on different forums – your slanderous comments regarding Ditleff Point are unfound and uncalled for. Could it be you are sorry you own property in Privateer Bay and not on Ditleff Point?

25. Capt Doug
    February 24th, 2010 23:41
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    Danny -you are perfectly correct – I haven’t been to the website of late – it now is for’ astute investors with vision’ – my fault entirely.
    Unsustainable — if you depend on rainfall
    Jim – I am pretty sure you have me confused with another Virgin Islander. My comment was well found on that website for a long time – uncalled for?? not sure?
    I do not own any property on STJ.

26. Lois
    February 25th, 2010 05:51
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    All I have to say is if I win the lottery tonight. I would love to be one of the select few.

27. Dave-a-roni
    February 26th, 2010 21:15
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    I appreciate and am happy to see all these “anti development” (for lack of a better phrase) comments on here, most of which echo my thoughts so now I don’t have to write as much.

    1. Nice Video, that peninsula looks awesome, in my 2 trips to the island I have never been there.

    2. Stated in the video: “Most likely the last waterfront development on STJ”

    Just throwing my two cents out there… Not Likely!

    3. Also stated in the video: “Long treasured for it’s rugged beauty and natural splendor, developers have been dedicated to preserving that history”

    Ok, this is what burns me up. When I heard that and then saw the map I expected to see “a HANDFUL of developments”… yet I counted over 30… one jammed right up to the other. A handful isn’t 30-35, a handful is 5, 6, 10 at most with natural untouched buffer zones in between. How can these developers preserve this natural beauty (showing wildlife and flora in the video) when these suckers are packed in like sardines. Sounds like a oxymoron. Believe me, you ain’t preserving any natural beauty when your scraping out all that natural beauty to build some villa’s, especially that close together. If these developers mean what they say there would be an undevoloped plot every other plot. Sure, some of those plants and animals will come back, but it’s never be the same.

    4. In general, gates suck… and there is no such thing as a private beach really, or at least not the water.

28. Danny
    February 27th, 2010 07:07
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    Dave-a-roni, with all due respect, I looked at the building plans on the website and these are pretty large lots which include large nonbuildable areas. They are hardly “packed in like sardines” or “one jammed right up to the other”.
    Preventing this property from being developed is not an option here. It is someone’s private property, not National Park land.
    How many lots would there be if they were all half acre lots?

29. Love saint John
    February 28th, 2010 12:21
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    My husband and I walked and swam while at Ditliff. I am very pro-land conservation but land can be sold or donated to conservation so that everyone wins, by choice.
    People owning the land have the right to develop it. People buying the houses probably earned the money to be able to do so. More than likely they worked hard,provided jobs to others etc. I am sick of hearing from people with a socialist mentality.
    Please celebrate the Trust For Public Land a non profit dedicated to conserving land. They just conserved a large hunk of Maho Bay. Please donate to them or some other land conservation group in your area. It is more productive to put your time, energy and a few dollars into something positive than being envious of successful people and by the way, God bless the Rockefellers for their huge contribution to land conservation.

30. Dave-a-roni
    February 28th, 2010 22:32
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    Love saint John,
    I agree, your right, people have the right to do with the land as they see fit. It’s just I and many others hope that some amount of land conservation is something people should always have in mind first when developing.:-)
    Hi Danny.
    Yeah, sorry, I didn’t look at the website… just the map in the video. I should have. Each lot looks to have a building on it. I could be wrong. I work as a sub contractor and I have seen some construction sights on island and MANY off island, land is usually almost completely skinned down before a build. That’s where I am coming from. Like I said, I could be wrong and I hope the developers actually do keep some sort of conservation in mind. With what you said, looks like they have no choice with the “non build-able areas”

    “How many lots would there be if they were all half acre lots?”

    What I meant about the lots is in reference to the map shown in the video. To develop every other one, so things are more spread out, ond the in-between lots untouched.

    Anyway…

31. Mike
    March 20th, 2010 16:11
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    To all the anti-developers, purely selfless nobles and environmentalists…why do you feel entitled to have free access to anything anywhere? Ditleff has been privately owned land since Rockefeller sold it 50+ years ago. 60% of St. John is designated as National Forrest and is being preserved, thanks to the “greedy” Rockefellers. There are many other beautiful places on St. John to visit legally (and illegally if you wish to be ignorant and arrogant trespassers). To address a couple comments, there is no “contaminated” runoff from the new villas that is “destroying the coral and marine life.” Nice try, though. Runoff from driveways and roofs are collected and reused via cisterns. The thousands of hermit crabs still cover the ground during the summer evenings, the iguanas still roam, and I’ve seen some of the “incredible spiders,” all within the last year since construction started. Be thankful that the codes and covenants don’t allow unrestricted development of environmentally unconscious shacks and shanty’s that dump raw sewage into the bays. I suppose you’d rather people halt population growth, restrict birth, and cease all business and real estate development that contribute to the tax base used for the betterment of “your” nation. Would it be easier for you if no one was rich and everyone was poor? Your noble comments seem as selfish and self serving as those you accuse and criticize.

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